1 00:00:02,910 --> 00:00:06,820 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,690 the police who investigate crime 3 00:00:08,750 --> 00:00:11,490 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 4 00:00:11,580 --> 00:00:13,360 These are their stories. 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,800 My kid wants 60 bucks for one card. 6 00:00:16,860 --> 00:00:20,030 Hey, we had baseball, they got Pokémon. 7 00:00:20,090 --> 00:00:22,300 Hey, Thurman Munson never cost me 60 bucks. 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,460 Oh, man. 9 00:00:23,530 --> 00:00:24,530 What's the matter? 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,700 Thing weighs a ton. 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,300 Well, check it out. Could be a computer or somethin'. 12 00:00:28,830 --> 00:00:30,680 Whatever it is, I want half. 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,780 I don't think so. 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,010 (CHATTER ON POLICE RADIO) 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,580 Male, 16. Wrapped up in a blanket, then double bagged. 16 00:00:42,650 --> 00:00:44,130 (SIREN WAILING) 17 00:00:44,180 --> 00:00:46,250 Slashed once on the neck. ED: Damn. 18 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,800 BRISCOE: So who is he? 19 00:00:47,850 --> 00:00:50,630 School ID from Jameson High. Name's Chris Skinner. 20 00:00:50,890 --> 00:00:53,800 Mother called the precinct last night, reported him missing. 21 00:00:54,330 --> 00:00:55,770 Here's his address. 22 00:00:57,530 --> 00:00:59,480 Columbus. About 10 blocks north. 23 00:00:59,530 --> 00:01:01,700 Anybody see the bag get dumped? We're on it. 24 00:01:01,770 --> 00:01:03,610 Could've been dragged from any one of these buildings. 25 00:01:03,670 --> 00:01:05,650 Or somebody drove up with a delivery. 26 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,840 Is that Chris? 27 00:01:08,570 --> 00:01:09,850 Who called her? 28 00:01:09,910 --> 00:01:11,080 Not us. 29 00:01:11,610 --> 00:01:14,280 What a coincidence What, she just showed up? 30 00:02:05,330 --> 00:02:07,170 Chris never came home for dinner. 31 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,740 I called his friends, looked around the neighborhood. 32 00:02:11,770 --> 00:02:13,410 Then I called the police. 33 00:02:14,010 --> 00:02:16,850 They didn't find him. And now he's dead. 34 00:02:18,940 --> 00:02:21,980 How did you happen to come to the murder scene Ms. Skinner? 35 00:02:22,050 --> 00:02:23,990 A friend heard it on the news. 36 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,390 A dead boy on 56th Street. 37 00:02:26,990 --> 00:02:28,490 Are you married, Ms. Skinner? 38 00:02:29,590 --> 00:02:30,930 Boyfriend? 39 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:33,690 No. Why? 40 00:02:33,890 --> 00:02:36,000 These are just standard questions, Ms. Skinner. 41 00:02:36,260 --> 00:02:38,370 I would never let anyone hurt Chris. 42 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:41,710 (STAMMERS) I need a cigarette. 43 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:44,240 An officer will walk you out. 44 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,550 When did patrol get there last night? 45 00:02:55,150 --> 00:02:58,890 9:20. About 10 minutes after she called 911. 46 00:02:58,950 --> 00:03:01,160 They canvassed the neighborhood, searched his building. 47 00:03:01,220 --> 00:03:02,290 And the apartment? 48 00:03:02,450 --> 00:03:04,490 Yeah, and the car. Nothing suspicious. 49 00:03:04,860 --> 00:03:06,270 Just a missing kid. 50 00:03:07,390 --> 00:03:08,870 Fax from the kid's school. 51 00:03:08,930 --> 00:03:10,910 Two years ago, he came in all beat up. 52 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,340 They called Children's Services. 53 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Chris and his mom said he fell down some stairs. 54 00:03:15,070 --> 00:03:18,670 May be this time he fell down on a knife. 55 00:03:21,810 --> 00:03:23,750 I make time of death about 5:00 p.m. 56 00:03:23,810 --> 00:03:25,220 What's this on his arm? 57 00:03:25,580 --> 00:03:28,250 It's from yesterday. I'm guessin' a grab mark. 58 00:03:28,310 --> 00:03:30,620 Or from getting banged around in the bag? 59 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,960 People don't bruise so easy when they're dead. 60 00:03:33,020 --> 00:03:36,900 So you can't tell if he was dragged, carried or beamed down. 61 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,370 Any signs of abuse? 62 00:03:38,420 --> 00:03:41,500 Either that or he played serious contact sports. 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,660 Found some edema on his right shoulder and side. 64 00:03:43,730 --> 00:03:45,260 He got popped a couple of weeks ago. 65 00:03:45,330 --> 00:03:46,740 ED: Not like this time. 66 00:03:47,170 --> 00:03:48,540 Interesting wound. 67 00:03:49,170 --> 00:03:51,740 At least a six-inch blade based on the length of the cut. 68 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,040 And I'm guessing a blade with a wide curve. 69 00:03:54,110 --> 00:03:55,680 What, like a scythe? 70 00:03:55,740 --> 00:03:58,350 Well, whatever it was, it hacked into his artery and he bled out. 71 00:03:58,810 --> 00:04:00,190 All over that blanket. 72 00:04:01,310 --> 00:04:02,450 Must've been washed recently. 73 00:04:02,510 --> 00:04:03,990 No hairs, no fingernails, 74 00:04:04,050 --> 00:04:06,320 no fibers that didn't come from the blanket. 75 00:04:06,420 --> 00:04:08,520 And the garbage bags are no good for prints. 76 00:04:08,590 --> 00:04:10,090 Good enough for dumpin' a body. 77 00:04:10,150 --> 00:04:14,690 Extra large. Three-millimeter, heavy duty, high-density polyethylene. 78 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,500 Not something you'd find in your kitchen. 79 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:18,340 There were cigarette ash and tobacco particles 80 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,070 on the outside of the outer bag, 81 00:04:20,130 --> 00:04:21,410 stuck to some dried blood. 82 00:04:21,470 --> 00:04:23,570 What brand? American, menthol. 83 00:04:23,630 --> 00:04:26,270 Can't give you more until we get it back from the lab. 84 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:29,150 Stuff could have been picked up on the sidewalk. 85 00:04:29,210 --> 00:04:31,710 Or a smoke after to calm your nerves. 86 00:04:33,010 --> 00:04:34,620 Sorry to hear the boy got killed, 87 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,280 but I have to be at a divorce hearing in an hour. 88 00:04:36,350 --> 00:04:38,260 I don't have time for this Make him wait. 89 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,800 You hear any commotion in the Skinner's apartment yesterday? 90 00:04:40,850 --> 00:04:43,460 Thick walls, okay? Only good thing about this building. 91 00:04:43,550 --> 00:04:45,260 She have any boyfriends staying over? 92 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,670 I'm not interested in the woman's sex life. 93 00:04:47,730 --> 00:04:50,040 Uh, did you ever hear her get mad at her son? 94 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,070 You think I stand in the hall with my ear to the door? 95 00:04:52,130 --> 00:04:54,010 We love nosy people. We gotta ask. 96 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:55,700 Any idea what kind of cigarettes she smokes? 97 00:04:55,770 --> 00:04:57,580 I've seen her at the deli around the corner. 98 00:04:58,770 --> 00:04:59,810 ED: Long brown hair. She smokes. 99 00:04:59,870 --> 00:05:01,650 She might have come in with her son. 100 00:05:01,710 --> 00:05:04,620 I know them. They walk by here to church every Sunday. 101 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,920 She ever buy cigarettes here? 102 00:05:05,980 --> 00:05:08,010 Yeah. Uh, Deauville Lights. 103 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,850 Not exactly American menthol. 104 00:05:10,210 --> 00:05:11,420 I saw 'em yesterday. 105 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,290 When? About 4:15. 106 00:05:13,550 --> 00:05:16,830 He was out here with another boy, selling candy bars for school. 107 00:05:16,890 --> 00:05:19,370 I sell candy too, so I told 'em to go away. 108 00:05:19,420 --> 00:05:21,270 - You know the other boy? - No. 109 00:05:21,330 --> 00:05:22,770 What did he look like? 110 00:05:22,830 --> 00:05:25,670 Spanish kid. Uh, teenager. 111 00:05:25,730 --> 00:05:27,210 I'm sorry I yelled at them. 112 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:28,470 Thanks. 113 00:05:28,770 --> 00:05:30,610 Maybe the kid sold some bad candy. 114 00:05:33,870 --> 00:05:35,180 (BELL RINGING) 115 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,190 MAN: I just heard. My God. 116 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,120 Uh, Chris was sellin' chocolate bars for the school. 117 00:05:40,180 --> 00:05:42,350 The office pointed us in your direction. Why? 118 00:05:42,410 --> 00:05:44,550 We figure he got killed while he was hawkin' candy. 119 00:05:44,620 --> 00:05:46,530 Oh, I hope it wasn't that. 120 00:05:46,580 --> 00:05:48,960 Our Weightlifting Club just started a fundraising drive yesterday. 121 00:05:49,420 --> 00:05:50,870 The boys were out selling Neptune bars 122 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,660 to, uh, raise money for new equipment. 123 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,100 Somebody else from the club was with him yesterday. 124 00:05:56,190 --> 00:05:57,800 Could have been Terry Sanchez. 125 00:05:57,860 --> 00:05:59,540 When Chris joined the club a month ago 126 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,970 Terry kind of took him under his wing. 127 00:06:01,030 --> 00:06:02,200 You know, help pushed him through his reps. 128 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:03,840 Terry show up today? 129 00:06:03,900 --> 00:06:05,570 I think I saw him. 130 00:06:08,470 --> 00:06:10,710 We only sold like one candy bar in about half an hour. 131 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:11,980 Then the Korean guy ran us off. 132 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,250 Where'd you and Chris go? 133 00:06:13,310 --> 00:06:15,050 We split up. Figured, why stand on the street 134 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:16,990 when I could sell a whole box to my grandmother? 135 00:06:17,050 --> 00:06:18,580 And that's where you were at five o'clock? 136 00:06:18,650 --> 00:06:20,220 Yeah. What about Chris? 137 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:22,260 He was gonna sell door to door above 56th Street. 138 00:06:22,350 --> 00:06:23,460 Why 56th? 139 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,160 Said there was a big building with no doorman. 140 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,770 It'd be easy to get in. 141 00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:28,270 You and Chris were buddies, huh? 142 00:06:29,660 --> 00:06:31,440 Yeah, I guess you could say that. 143 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:33,240 I shoulda went with him. 144 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:34,640 Maybe not. 145 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,040 BRISCOE: ls the doorman on a break? 146 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:41,680 Yeah, since '96. Co-op board decided they're too expensive. 147 00:06:41,740 --> 00:06:42,950 I'm the super. 148 00:06:43,010 --> 00:06:44,680 I'm Detective Briscoe. This is Detective... 149 00:06:44,740 --> 00:06:45,980 Ooh-hoo! Two o'clock! 150 00:06:46,340 --> 00:06:48,260 Hey, follow the shiny badge. 151 00:06:49,610 --> 00:06:51,530 You see this kid yesterday afternoon? 152 00:06:51,580 --> 00:06:54,320 May have been going door to door with a box of candy? 153 00:06:54,820 --> 00:06:57,130 Uh, I wasn't here yesterday afternoon. 154 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,590 But I know that boy, all right. 155 00:06:59,660 --> 00:07:01,330 A couple of weeks ago, right across the street, 156 00:07:01,390 --> 00:07:03,770 he was messin' with one of the kids from the building. 157 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:06,330 I ran after him. Had him pushed up against the wall. 158 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:07,710 Who was the kid from the building? 159 00:07:07,930 --> 00:07:09,880 Uh, skinny kid. Always wears black. 160 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,600 Ryan Velardi, 12C. 161 00:07:13,170 --> 00:07:14,620 RYAN: I got home right after school. 162 00:07:14,670 --> 00:07:16,080 But no one came around sellin' candy. 163 00:07:16,170 --> 00:07:17,410 Where were your parents? 164 00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:19,450 At work. Like they are now. 165 00:07:19,710 --> 00:07:21,690 What about you? Is this about the dead kid? 166 00:07:21,750 --> 00:07:22,780 What makes you think that? 167 00:07:22,850 --> 00:07:24,550 He was found right down the street. 168 00:07:24,620 --> 00:07:25,820 Yeah, you guys know him? 169 00:07:26,580 --> 00:07:27,650 Nah. 170 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,820 What school you go to? Jameson High. 171 00:07:29,990 --> 00:07:31,400 Same school as Chris Skinner. 172 00:07:32,290 --> 00:07:34,700 I knew who he was. We just never hung out together. 173 00:07:35,130 --> 00:07:37,730 How about a couple of weeks ago, when he had you shoved up against the wall? 174 00:07:38,260 --> 00:07:39,300 Where'd you hear that? 175 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,470 Look, maybe you should come back when my parents get home. 176 00:07:41,530 --> 00:07:42,880 ED: What's he got to hide? 177 00:07:42,930 --> 00:07:44,410 They'll be home from work around 10:00. 178 00:07:44,470 --> 00:07:45,970 Why don't we call them? 179 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,980 You can't reach them now. We'll be back later. 180 00:07:51,310 --> 00:07:53,790 Charming pair. Parents work till 10:00? 181 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,190 Maybe they're cops. 182 00:07:55,950 --> 00:07:58,690 Hey, Lennie. What the hell? 183 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,060 They won't have bags that big up here. 184 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,000 Couldn't fit a large pizza box into one of these. 185 00:08:10,630 --> 00:08:11,970 Yeah? 186 00:08:12,660 --> 00:08:14,070 How about this? 187 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,540 Neptune Bars. "Not for retail." 188 00:08:21,970 --> 00:08:23,040 I want my brother here. 189 00:08:23,110 --> 00:08:25,350 Ryan, relax. He's right across the hall. 190 00:08:25,410 --> 00:08:26,720 Then why can't he come in? 191 00:08:26,780 --> 00:08:27,880 Don't worry about it. 192 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:29,550 Just me and you. 193 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,320 I didn't do anything. 194 00:08:31,420 --> 00:08:33,090 Mmm, you lied about Chris Skinner. 195 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:34,690 I'm not lying. 196 00:08:34,820 --> 00:08:36,390 Come on, man. 197 00:08:37,460 --> 00:08:39,960 The two of you had beef. He chased you. 198 00:08:40,020 --> 00:08:41,130 I barely know the kid. 199 00:08:41,190 --> 00:08:43,930 You saw him after school on Thursday. I didn't. 200 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,700 So it was just a coincidence that he was sellin' candy 201 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,710 on your floor at the same time he got killed? 202 00:08:49,770 --> 00:08:50,770 Yeah, I guess. 203 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,110 Don't play me! 204 00:08:52,170 --> 00:08:53,980 You really think you're gonna get up and walk outta here? 205 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,310 You and your brother both are down with this. 206 00:08:56,370 --> 00:08:58,150 You got him to help you drag the bag downstairs, didn't you? 207 00:08:58,210 --> 00:08:59,210 No. 208 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,260 Come on, man. We're getting fingerprints off your door. 209 00:09:01,310 --> 00:09:03,350 You're lyin' to me, you're goin' to Rikers. 210 00:09:03,410 --> 00:09:04,450 I'm only 16. 211 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,290 Mmm-hmm. And they got a place for little boys like you out there. 212 00:09:07,350 --> 00:09:10,700 You think you're scared now, wait'll they get a hold of your little ass. 213 00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:14,040 I'm not saying anything till I talk to my brother. 214 00:09:14,190 --> 00:09:15,800 I wasn't even home on Thursday. 215 00:09:15,860 --> 00:09:17,740 BRISCOE: What time did you get in? Like 6:30. 216 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,440 Your brother mention anything about Chris Skinner comin' around? 217 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:22,210 He told you, he hardly knows him. 218 00:09:22,270 --> 00:09:24,440 He was havin' problems with this kid, wasn't he? 219 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:26,880 What kind of problems? Come on, Ricky. 220 00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:30,410 We got a witness who saw Chris goin after your brother. 221 00:09:30,810 --> 00:09:32,950 I don't really get all involved in my brother's social life. 222 00:09:33,010 --> 00:09:34,510 Maybe there's somethin goin' on with him. 223 00:09:34,580 --> 00:09:36,180 Like what? You gotta ask him. 224 00:09:37,580 --> 00:09:39,620 What kind of knives do you and Ryan have? 225 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,130 We don't have any knives. 226 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:42,360 (KNOCK ON DOOR) 227 00:09:42,950 --> 00:09:45,800 Mr. Velardi's lawyer. Uh, interview's over. 228 00:09:45,860 --> 00:09:48,130 Unless you have some evidence I don't know about. 229 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,170 COVEN: Let's go. 230 00:09:53,660 --> 00:09:54,870 We searched their apartment. 231 00:09:54,930 --> 00:09:57,210 No blood, no bags and no prints. 232 00:09:57,340 --> 00:09:58,810 We know the victim was up there. 233 00:09:58,870 --> 00:10:00,780 His prints were on the candy box. 234 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,340 Could be coincidence. 235 00:10:02,410 --> 00:10:05,350 Ryan had motive. The dead kid was hassling him. 236 00:10:05,810 --> 00:10:07,720 One witness, one incident. 237 00:10:09,710 --> 00:10:12,700 Are you saying my son was bullying this boy? 238 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,460 High school can be a rough place. 239 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,230 Sometimes you gotta act tough to keep the wolves at bay. 240 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,030 Chris wouldn't hurt anyone. I'm sure of that. 241 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,100 BRISCOE: Our M.E. said he was all bruised up. 242 00:10:25,230 --> 00:10:26,440 He was? 243 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,940 BRISCOE: Did he mention being in a fight? 244 00:10:29,670 --> 00:10:31,170 Ever get a call from the school? 245 00:10:31,370 --> 00:10:32,970 Detention? Anything like that? 246 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,040 MARCIA: No. 247 00:10:34,810 --> 00:10:37,550 But Chris wasn't doing all that well when school started. 248 00:10:38,340 --> 00:10:40,520 I just thought he didn't like his teachers. 249 00:10:40,580 --> 00:10:42,560 When you say he wasn't doing well... 250 00:10:45,180 --> 00:10:46,990 He didn't really talk to me. 251 00:10:48,190 --> 00:10:51,290 But the last few weeks, he seemed a lot better. 252 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:53,400 Around the time he joined the Weightlifting Club. 253 00:10:54,130 --> 00:10:55,600 Chris was lifting weights? 254 00:10:57,290 --> 00:10:58,770 He'd never done that before? 255 00:10:59,130 --> 00:11:00,230 No. 256 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:02,330 BRISCOE: Anything else unusual going on? 257 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:10,710 I found a pamphlet on his desk about conflict resolution. 258 00:11:11,110 --> 00:11:15,060 I thought it was just something that they gave everybody at his school. 259 00:11:16,750 --> 00:11:19,020 (CRYING) I meant to ask him about it. 260 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,150 I was just so busy lately. 261 00:11:25,020 --> 00:11:26,830 Are you going to be okay, ma'am? 262 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:29,140 I don't know. 263 00:11:35,770 --> 00:11:38,750 So the student has a problem, he sits down with a group of peer counselors. 264 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,250 They try and talk it out. 265 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,510 And if that doesn't work, they grab their guns. 266 00:11:42,570 --> 00:11:46,490 (LAUGHS) I hate to disappoint you, Detective, but Jameson's a magnet school. 267 00:11:46,540 --> 00:11:49,920 We don't really have the violence prevalent in bigger city schools. 268 00:11:49,980 --> 00:11:52,480 If a kid requested intervention, would you know about it? 269 00:11:52,550 --> 00:11:53,760 I'm supposed to. 270 00:11:53,820 --> 00:11:54,960 Chris Skinner? 271 00:11:55,450 --> 00:11:58,430 Uh, no. Chris was in my math class, but he never came here. 272 00:11:58,490 --> 00:11:59,660 He had one of your handouts. 273 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,530 Any sense of what was bothering him? 274 00:12:02,490 --> 00:12:05,940 There's a lot of tension between the various cliques, you know? 275 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,380 The jocks diss the freaks. The hip-hop kids diss the nerds. 276 00:12:10,030 --> 00:12:11,240 Any fights? 277 00:12:11,300 --> 00:12:13,540 Uh, not that I'm aware of. 278 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,910 The psychological torture can get pretty nasty. 279 00:12:15,970 --> 00:12:18,280 It can drive a weak kid to self-destruct. 280 00:12:18,380 --> 00:12:20,120 Or to destruct some other kid. 281 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,090 Was Chris in one of the cliques? I'm not sure. 282 00:12:23,150 --> 00:12:25,220 What about a kid named Ryan Velardi? 283 00:12:26,350 --> 00:12:27,620 I don't recognize that name. 284 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,830 Dark greasy hair, black clothes. 285 00:12:29,890 --> 00:12:32,890 Mascara, black nail polish? He'd be a Goth. 286 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,400 Just black clothes. 287 00:12:34,630 --> 00:12:36,400 Oh, then he'd be with the freaks. 288 00:12:43,370 --> 00:12:44,850 I just lost my appetite. 289 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:46,680 ED: We just have a few questions. 290 00:12:46,740 --> 00:12:48,510 This has gotta be about Chris Skinner. 291 00:12:48,570 --> 00:12:51,680 It's about Ryan Velardi. He hangs out with you guys, right? 292 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,040 Sometimes. 293 00:12:53,110 --> 00:12:55,610 He's got a PlayStation and some ill video games. 294 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:57,660 He ever have any problems with Skinner? 295 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,420 Aside from Chris being a geek? 296 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,930 It sounds like you and Skinner didn't get along. 297 00:13:00,990 --> 00:13:02,730 We didn't have anything to do with him. 298 00:13:02,790 --> 00:13:04,770 He didn't have any classes with you? 299 00:13:04,820 --> 00:13:06,800 Ask Jon. He's in Special Ed. 300 00:13:06,860 --> 00:13:08,670 (LAUGHS SARCASTICALLY) Shut up. 301 00:13:08,730 --> 00:13:11,210 We didn't hate him or anything. He was just shallow. 302 00:13:11,260 --> 00:13:12,610 Practically a skater-oid. 303 00:13:12,660 --> 00:13:14,170 A what? BOY: A skater. 304 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:16,480 You know, baggy pants, no brains. 305 00:13:16,700 --> 00:13:18,480 Ah, that would make him stand out around here. 306 00:13:18,540 --> 00:13:19,740 Thanks. 307 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,940 I bummed a cigarette off Chris a few times, 308 00:13:23,010 --> 00:13:24,320 but he didn't really hang out with us. 309 00:13:24,380 --> 00:13:26,790 Did he ever say anything about Ryan Velardi? 310 00:13:26,910 --> 00:13:28,190 He was kind of quiet. 311 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,350 Maybe Chris had a grudge against him. 312 00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:32,220 Is that what the freaks told you? 313 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,560 We think Chris was pickin' on this Velardi kid. 314 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,250 GIRL: Doesn't sound like him. 315 00:13:36,450 --> 00:13:38,760 Chris was in my Modern Lit class. 316 00:13:38,820 --> 00:13:40,700 He was like, you know, sensitive. 317 00:13:41,290 --> 00:13:42,460 Sensitive? 318 00:13:42,530 --> 00:13:44,340 He was. When we did poetry, 319 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,840 he recited a Kurt Cobain song in class. 320 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:48,600 When did he start pumpin' iron? 321 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,680 Serious? Chris Skinner lifting? 322 00:13:51,570 --> 00:13:54,240 I guess you don't really know what anybody's really like inside. 323 00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:56,750 So there's nothing between him and the freaks? 324 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,340 We would've heard something. 325 00:13:58,510 --> 00:13:59,720 Thanks for your help. 326 00:13:59,780 --> 00:14:03,590 Chris asks about counseling, he starts some weight lifting. 327 00:14:03,710 --> 00:14:06,390 I don't see the bully. I'm seein' the 98 pound weakling. 328 00:14:06,450 --> 00:14:08,830 I just wonder who kicked sand in his face. 329 00:14:10,250 --> 00:14:12,860 Chris started showin' up to work out like a month ago. 330 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,160 BRISCOE: Why a sudden interest in body building? 331 00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:18,640 Said he wanted to get cut. Then maybe the jerks in school would leave him alone. 332 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:20,610 Which jerks are we talkin' about? 333 00:14:20,660 --> 00:14:22,740 Hey, man, in this place? Take your pick. 334 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,210 Between you and me, what do you think? 335 00:14:28,770 --> 00:14:29,980 I don't know. 336 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,250 Who you protecting? 337 00:14:33,340 --> 00:14:34,520 The kid who killed your buddy? 338 00:14:36,850 --> 00:14:39,190 I think Chris was having some problems with the freaks. 339 00:14:39,250 --> 00:14:40,590 Who in particular? 340 00:14:40,990 --> 00:14:42,260 There's like 10 or 12 of them. 341 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,190 We need the names. 342 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,540 You talked to my son at school already. 343 00:14:50,590 --> 00:14:52,900 BRISCOE: Look, we just need to ask a couple of follow-up questions. 344 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,000 Uh-huh. You think Jon's involved? 345 00:14:55,070 --> 00:14:56,870 I'll take care of it, Sandra. 346 00:14:59,740 --> 00:15:01,940 The boy's body was found just down the block from here. 347 00:15:02,010 --> 00:15:04,250 It's probably a coincidence but we need to check it out. 348 00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:05,620 Well, what do you want to know? 349 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,250 We'd rather talk to him. 350 00:15:07,310 --> 00:15:09,190 Right now, you'll have to talk to me. 351 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,750 Where was your son Thursday afternoon? 352 00:15:12,950 --> 00:15:15,230 He needs an alibi? That'd be a start. 353 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,090 (STAMMERS) Well, I think I'd like to see a lawyer first. 354 00:15:18,620 --> 00:15:21,070 I gotta tell you, you're not helping your boy like this. 355 00:15:21,260 --> 00:15:22,790 Do you have a business card? 356 00:15:26,530 --> 00:15:28,600 Detective Green, um, 357 00:15:28,670 --> 00:15:31,310 I'll call you when Jon's ready to be interviewed, all right? 358 00:15:31,770 --> 00:15:33,150 Good night. 359 00:15:34,810 --> 00:15:36,110 Bingo. 360 00:15:36,170 --> 00:15:38,480 Maybe somebody up here bought a Neptune bar. 361 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,820 I was home all day Thursday. Why? 362 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,120 Anybody come to your door around five, six o'clock sellin' candy? 363 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,960 No. You know the Telfords? 364 00:15:47,350 --> 00:15:49,520 Who, the family down the hall? Not really. 365 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:52,130 Those Bronco Menthols? Yeah, man. You want one? 366 00:15:52,390 --> 00:15:53,870 Yeah, for later. 367 00:15:54,060 --> 00:15:55,730 You ever smoke out here in the hallway? 368 00:15:55,790 --> 00:15:57,530 My wife won't let me smoke in the apartment. 369 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:58,940 Yeah? Where do you go? 370 00:16:00,030 --> 00:16:02,170 She makes me stand out here. 371 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,200 BRISCOE: You always leave your butts on the floor? 372 00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:08,940 I know, I know. Super's been on me about it. 373 00:16:09,010 --> 00:16:11,150 Says he always has to mop up after me. 374 00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:14,290 I throw him an extra 20 around Christmas, you know. 375 00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:17,450 You hear anything unusual goin' on out here Thursday afternoon? 376 00:16:17,650 --> 00:16:21,030 I'm a percussionist. I've been workin' on some new material, man. 377 00:16:21,090 --> 00:16:23,120 I wouldn't have heard a cannon go off. 378 00:16:23,820 --> 00:16:25,800 The cigarette ash we found in the stairwell 379 00:16:25,860 --> 00:16:29,330 matches the tobacco residue on the outer garbage bag. 380 00:16:29,390 --> 00:16:32,570 The Telford kid dragged the body down the stairs and onto the street. 381 00:16:32,630 --> 00:16:34,300 Plus, the kid won't give us an alibi. 382 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,140 Or his father won't give him a chance. 383 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,510 What do we have for motive? 384 00:16:37,570 --> 00:16:39,980 The Telford kid's clique at school was giving Chris Skinner a hard time. 385 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,680 He started pumping iron so maybe they'd stop hassling him. 386 00:16:42,740 --> 00:16:45,980 I'll talk to Carmichael. It sounds like enough for a search warrant. 387 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,620 BRISCOE: Where's your son's bedroom? Jon's doing his homework. 388 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,330 Police! 389 00:16:52,350 --> 00:16:54,090 Unlock the door, Jon. 390 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:55,920 Bust it. 391 00:17:00,790 --> 00:17:01,900 Please, don't hurt him. 392 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,230 Don't say a word, Jon. 393 00:17:04,730 --> 00:17:05,730 Homework, huh? 394 00:17:05,830 --> 00:17:08,110 "Biker Sluts Rock Vegas." 395 00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:09,880 Must be the new math. 396 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,740 No place like home. 397 00:17:11,870 --> 00:17:13,080 He's a teenage boy. 398 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,610 Oh, yeah? What's this? 399 00:17:17,610 --> 00:17:18,880 A zit remover? 400 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,050 Murder in the second degree. 401 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:29,530 How does the defendant plead? Not guilty. 402 00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:31,730 People request $500,000 bail. 403 00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:33,130 GRANICK: They're dreaming, Your Honor. 404 00:17:33,190 --> 00:17:34,970 CARMICHAEL: We have a weapon that matches the fatal wound. 405 00:17:35,030 --> 00:17:37,900 No blood was found on this weapon or in the defendant's apartment. 406 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,410 CARMICHAEL: There's evidence the victim's body 407 00:17:39,460 --> 00:17:41,070 was dragged through the defendant's stairwell. 408 00:17:41,130 --> 00:17:43,580 GRANICK: Tobacco residue that could have come from a million places. 409 00:17:43,630 --> 00:17:45,140 All they've got is coincidences. 410 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,980 You get enough coincidences, they start to add up. 411 00:17:48,540 --> 00:17:51,040 Yes, they do. To $20,000. 412 00:17:55,980 --> 00:17:57,690 Can't fault Judge Fraser on bail. 413 00:17:58,620 --> 00:18:01,320 Can you put Telford and Chris Skinner together on the day of the murder? 414 00:18:01,390 --> 00:18:02,920 Nobody saw them together. 415 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:05,430 And how'd he manage to clean up all that blood? 416 00:18:05,490 --> 00:18:07,590 He got an A in Home Ec. 417 00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:09,760 Or maybe he had help. 418 00:18:10,860 --> 00:18:12,740 I never saw Chris or Jon that day. 419 00:18:12,860 --> 00:18:14,900 You stickin' with that? It's the truth. 420 00:18:14,970 --> 00:18:15,970 Then you're under arrest. 421 00:18:16,030 --> 00:18:17,710 You said you were just gonna talk to him. 422 00:18:17,770 --> 00:18:18,870 And he's not talking. 423 00:18:18,940 --> 00:18:20,570 So that makes him an accomplice to murder. 424 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,710 So you and Jon are going upstate together. 425 00:18:22,910 --> 00:18:24,010 For a couple of decades. 426 00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:26,490 COVEN: Oh, please. My son didn't do anything. 427 00:18:26,540 --> 00:18:28,250 Except set the whole thing up. 428 00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:30,720 Jon killed Chris because he was bullying you, right? 429 00:18:30,780 --> 00:18:33,850 That's your case? A second-hand motive? 430 00:18:34,020 --> 00:18:35,260 RYAN: It wasn't even like that. 431 00:18:35,350 --> 00:18:38,060 That's the only theory we have so we're runnin' with it. 432 00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:40,660 I never even told Jon about Chris pushin' me around. 433 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:42,530 I didn't want him to think I was a wimp. 434 00:18:43,660 --> 00:18:45,800 So what did you tell Jon? 435 00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:50,000 He talks to you, you forget about this accomplice nonsense? 436 00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:52,650 We'll see. 437 00:18:54,670 --> 00:18:56,170 (WHISPERS INAUDIBLY) 438 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,220 I saw him on the street that day. 439 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,380 All I said was Chris was in the neighborhood sellin' candy. 440 00:19:00,810 --> 00:19:01,880 Why? 441 00:19:02,750 --> 00:19:04,230 I knew Jon liked messin' with him. 442 00:19:04,450 --> 00:19:06,220 VAN BUREN: Messin with him how? 443 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,590 RYAN: I don't know. Just givin' him a hard time. 444 00:19:08,650 --> 00:19:10,790 What did Jon say when you told him about Chris. 445 00:19:11,620 --> 00:19:12,760 Nothin' about killin' him. 446 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,960 Then what? 447 00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:19,230 He said, "I hope that faggot comes to my building." 448 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,110 Not exactly a death threat. 449 00:19:24,170 --> 00:19:25,980 He was lying in wait for Chris Skinner. 450 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,520 Because he has a sweet tooth. 451 00:19:27,570 --> 00:19:29,570 He enjoyed hassling the kid. 452 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,710 Why not try out his toys on him? 453 00:19:31,780 --> 00:19:33,620 His parents know that he had these weapons? 454 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,350 They were hanging on his wall. 455 00:19:35,410 --> 00:19:37,090 He ever threaten anyone else? 456 00:19:37,150 --> 00:19:39,060 So far, none of the kids are talking. 457 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:40,790 And the people who aren't kids? 458 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,330 Teaching creative writing is like being a therapist. 459 00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:50,800 Some of the stuff they write would freak you out. 460 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,470 What kind of stuff did Jon Telford write? 461 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,470 Very disturbing. 462 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,910 I saved one of his stories. 463 00:20:00,070 --> 00:20:02,950 "I sent my enemy's gibs flying through the air." 464 00:20:03,670 --> 00:20:04,910 Gibs? 465 00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:06,350 Body parts. 466 00:20:06,610 --> 00:20:09,520 "I spammed him with my pill, threw my grenade." 467 00:20:09,580 --> 00:20:11,360 "I fragged another fresh beer," 468 00:20:11,850 --> 00:20:13,490 "made another easy kill." 469 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:16,220 Anthony Burgess would be proud. 470 00:20:16,290 --> 00:20:18,790 I wish Burgess was the inspiration. 471 00:20:18,860 --> 00:20:20,840 It's from a computer game called Terror. 472 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,370 Jon told me he plays it on the Internet five, six hours a night. 473 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:26,540 You mind if I borrow that? 474 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,010 I called Jon's parents about it, but his father hung up on me. 475 00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:34,020 I didn't know what else to do. (SIGHS) 476 00:20:34,610 --> 00:20:38,450 You know, I still can't believe that Jon actually killed that boy. 477 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,160 "Then I laid a gash in the neck of Superfly Jones." 478 00:20:43,850 --> 00:20:45,290 Character from the game. 479 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,020 We seized his computer this morning, 480 00:20:48,090 --> 00:20:50,460 and I found these video games on his hard drive. 481 00:20:50,620 --> 00:20:52,460 The violence looks so over-the-top. 482 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,590 That's what sells. Terror 2's the best on the market. 483 00:20:55,660 --> 00:20:58,400 The Marines use games like this to train their newbies. 484 00:20:58,460 --> 00:20:59,670 Must be a male thing. 485 00:20:59,730 --> 00:21:01,770 My nephew has the old version. 486 00:21:01,830 --> 00:21:03,140 It gets to you. 487 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,870 So you like this junk? 488 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,310 Lighten up, Abbie. He got me to try it one night. 489 00:21:07,370 --> 00:21:09,910 Three o'clock in the morning I was still hypnotized. 490 00:21:11,710 --> 00:21:13,880 Anything else interesting in his computer? 491 00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:16,360 I downloaded a bunch of e-mails for you. 492 00:21:20,180 --> 00:21:21,690 Anything useful? 493 00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:25,860 Let's see. Telford e-mailed somebody named DoomMaster. 494 00:21:27,060 --> 00:21:29,440 "Did you notice Skinner's faggot haircut?" 495 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,400 Here's one about some kid named Leo. 496 00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:37,870 Telford was trying to figure out away to put urine in his locker. 497 00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:44,940 CLAYTON: I'm just glad he didn't kill Leo. 498 00:21:45,710 --> 00:21:47,550 Did you have problems with Jon? 499 00:21:47,610 --> 00:21:48,990 Not really. 500 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,250 Oh, come on, Leo. It's no big deal. 501 00:21:53,580 --> 00:21:55,490 He'll barely talk to me about it. 502 00:21:56,890 --> 00:21:59,660 Maybe you'd feel better if you got it off your chest. 503 00:22:01,860 --> 00:22:03,630 Well, I'll tell you what I know. 504 00:22:03,690 --> 00:22:07,370 Last year in study hall, Jon put a dead rat in Leo's backpack. 505 00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:10,850 This year, he scratched the word 'faggot' on his locker. 506 00:22:11,370 --> 00:22:12,810 Did you complain to the school? 507 00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:14,380 Leo didn't want me to. 508 00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:16,780 He was afraid it'd make it worse. 509 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,050 One of his friends told me about the locker. 510 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,390 I decided to go see Telford's father. 511 00:22:21,780 --> 00:22:22,950 And how'd he react? 512 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,060 He said I had no proof, and if I called the school he was gonna sue me. 513 00:22:28,290 --> 00:22:29,490 You sure it was Jon? 514 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,860 CLAYTON: Leo says Jon's the only one who calls him "faggot." 515 00:22:34,860 --> 00:22:36,800 Look, it's no big deal. 516 00:22:36,860 --> 00:22:37,930 And it did not end there. 517 00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:40,130 Three weeks later, he locked him in a bathroom stall. 518 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,340 Come on, Dad. I called Telford's father. 519 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,500 He said Leo should learn to tough it out. 520 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,040 Sounds like you were having a pretty rough time. 521 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:51,180 Let's face it, I'm short, 522 00:22:51,610 --> 00:22:52,880 I'm nerdy looking. 523 00:22:53,580 --> 00:22:55,450 Bullies like Jon are going to pick on me. 524 00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:56,920 Did he ever threaten you? 525 00:22:59,820 --> 00:23:01,590 If he did, I need you to tell me. 526 00:23:03,290 --> 00:23:04,920 It's really nothing. 527 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,500 Look, Leo, 528 00:23:08,460 --> 00:23:11,500 maybe it's okay to keep what happened to you a secret, 529 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,370 but Chris Skinner was murdered. 530 00:23:19,970 --> 00:23:23,880 Jon once took out a knife and tried to pull me into his building. 531 00:23:23,940 --> 00:23:25,440 What happened? 532 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,790 He said he had a room in his basement 533 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,090 where he was gonna use me for sword practice. 534 00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:32,390 Then I ran away. 535 00:23:32,450 --> 00:23:34,360 Why didn't you tell me? 536 00:23:35,490 --> 00:23:37,360 What were you gonna do, Dad? 537 00:23:37,420 --> 00:23:38,800 Call his father again? 538 00:23:43,260 --> 00:23:45,100 Which one is your storage room, Mr. Telford? 539 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,640 Why should I help you? You're tryin' to lock up my son. 540 00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:49,540 You son is a predator. 541 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,640 Why? Because he plays video games? 542 00:23:51,700 --> 00:23:52,980 BRISCOE: This is it. 543 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:54,370 Give us the key. 544 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,150 I don't have to. ED: You're right. 545 00:24:08,420 --> 00:24:09,690 What the hell is this? 546 00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:11,630 I brought it home from the store where I work. 547 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,790 Couldn't you get any live volunteers? 548 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:15,360 You knew about this? 549 00:24:15,460 --> 00:24:17,440 What's the big deal? Jon was practicing. 550 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,370 Looks like he was gettin' pretty good at it. 551 00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:28,010 The People's motion should be denied in its entirety, Judge. 552 00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:30,420 What evidence are you seeking to introduce, Mr. McCoy? 553 00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:32,210 Jon Telford's practice dummy. 554 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,380 Evidence of his Internet fantasies. 555 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,920 Prior instances of his bullying. 556 00:24:36,050 --> 00:24:38,250 It's prejudicial, Judge. It's an attack on his character. 557 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,690 He sliced up a mannequin in the exact manner Chris Skinner was murdered. 558 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:43,320 It goes to modus operandi. 559 00:24:43,390 --> 00:24:46,230 Modus operandi implies a prior crime was committed. 560 00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:48,300 There's no law against defacing a mannequin. 561 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:50,200 There are laws against possessing these kinds of weapons. 562 00:24:50,260 --> 00:24:52,330 Yes, and you're free to introduce the fact 563 00:24:52,430 --> 00:24:55,840 my client broke those laws if he takes the stand, which he's not. 564 00:24:55,900 --> 00:24:58,070 So Mr. Granick can portray his client as a choirboy? 565 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,340 If he opens the door, Mr. McCoy it all becomes relevant. 566 00:25:01,870 --> 00:25:03,150 Now, until then, 567 00:25:03,270 --> 00:25:04,720 I'll permit you to introduce this... 568 00:25:04,770 --> 00:25:06,310 What do you call it? Kama. 569 00:25:06,910 --> 00:25:11,790 This kama. You can argue it's a unique weapon that inflicted a unique wound. 570 00:25:11,850 --> 00:25:14,190 Now, that's legitimate circumstantial evidence. 571 00:25:14,350 --> 00:25:15,730 The other stuff is out. 572 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:23,000 Van Ness excluded all our bad acts evidence. 573 00:25:23,060 --> 00:25:24,800 He may as well have dismissed the case. 574 00:25:24,860 --> 00:25:26,740 We have Ryan Velardi's testimony. 575 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,300 Not unless you can talk some sense into his mother. 576 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:34,280 Ryan didn't see his friend Jon like he said. 577 00:25:34,370 --> 00:25:36,940 When he spoke to Ms. Carmichael, he was confused. 578 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,250 He didn't seem confused to me. 579 00:25:39,410 --> 00:25:40,890 You threatened him with a murder charge. 580 00:25:40,940 --> 00:25:43,120 He was just sayin' what you wanted to hear. 581 00:25:43,180 --> 00:25:45,250 Did somebody get to him, Mrs. Velardi? 582 00:25:46,020 --> 00:25:48,520 If there's been witness tampering, we can make it stop. 583 00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:49,830 It's not that. 584 00:25:49,890 --> 00:25:51,800 So what's going on, Mrs. Velardi? 585 00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:53,820 He's scared. 586 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,160 Scared of what? 587 00:25:57,030 --> 00:25:59,340 If you don't help us, I'll prosecute you for tampering. 588 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:01,910 Oh, first you threaten him, now you're threatenin' me? 589 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,480 He's a witness in a murder case. 590 00:26:03,530 --> 00:26:05,710 I need his testimony to convict the killer 591 00:26:05,770 --> 00:26:08,110 I don't care. I'm not puttin' him in danger. 592 00:26:08,170 --> 00:26:09,910 We can protect him. 593 00:26:10,010 --> 00:26:11,750 You'll have to find somebody else. 594 00:26:11,940 --> 00:26:15,860 Mrs. Velardi, he's the only one who heard Jon Telford 595 00:26:15,910 --> 00:26:17,480 threaten to harm the victim. 596 00:26:18,850 --> 00:26:20,290 Please, Mr. McCoy. 597 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,560 Mrs. Velardi, I'll subpoena him 598 00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:24,060 and put him in front of the jury. 599 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:25,930 And he'll say he made a mistake. 600 00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:28,970 His lawyer says he doesn't have to talk to you. 601 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,330 We have nothing else to say. 602 00:26:37,330 --> 00:26:40,340 CARMICHAEL: Ryan Velardi was the lynch-pin of our case. 603 00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:42,970 Can you put the victim at Telford's building? 604 00:26:43,370 --> 00:26:46,820 The cops have been through it three times. Nobody saw him. 605 00:26:47,210 --> 00:26:48,380 ADAM: There was a blanket. 606 00:26:48,450 --> 00:26:51,790 Freshly dry cleaned. No hairs or fibers except for the victim's. 607 00:26:51,850 --> 00:26:55,090 This teenager commits the perfect crime. 608 00:26:55,150 --> 00:26:56,790 I know. It's hard to believe. 609 00:26:58,390 --> 00:27:02,230 CSU luminoled every conceivable spot in the Telford's building. 610 00:27:02,930 --> 00:27:04,340 They didn't find a drop of blood. 611 00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:08,540 We have the splatter games, the violent behavior, the illegal weapons. 612 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,440 But there's no way to get it in. 613 00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:11,840 ADAM: Where'd he get the weapons? 614 00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:14,580 Mail order. Paid for with his father's credit card. 615 00:27:15,670 --> 00:27:18,680 (LAUGHS) Kid gets off, father buys his son a bazooka. 616 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,320 (SIGHS) Charge the father. 617 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:27,090 With providing the instrumentality? With murder. 618 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,350 On what basis? 619 00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:31,320 Depraved indifference. 620 00:27:32,090 --> 00:27:34,760 Hold the father responsible for the criminal acts of the son? 621 00:27:35,230 --> 00:27:36,760 You don't think he's responsible? 622 00:27:36,830 --> 00:27:38,310 Morally, maybe. 623 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:39,670 It's good enough for me. 624 00:27:39,730 --> 00:27:42,040 It's about time we knocked some sense into these parents. 625 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,640 You're wielding a pretty big stick. 626 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,240 They don't do the job puts it on us. 627 00:27:49,570 --> 00:27:50,570 Does it? 628 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,420 Nobody's ever tried it. 629 00:27:54,410 --> 00:27:56,220 That ever stop you two before? 630 00:28:03,650 --> 00:28:04,830 What do you think? 631 00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:08,670 It makes me nervous. 632 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,600 I don't know. Telford encourages Jon's aggressive behavior, 633 00:28:13,660 --> 00:28:16,140 he arms him to the teeth. Jury might buy it. 634 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,610 That's what makes me nervous. 635 00:28:17,670 --> 00:28:21,410 We try them together. All Jon's prior bad acts become probative. 636 00:28:21,470 --> 00:28:24,010 We don't get the father, at least we get the kid. 637 00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:29,090 Bombs away. 638 00:28:30,910 --> 00:28:32,260 You're arresting me for what? 639 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,520 For the murder of Chris Skinner. 640 00:28:33,580 --> 00:28:34,820 Why are you doing this? 641 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,950 Turn around, Mr. Telford? 642 00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:37,290 Not until my lawyer gets here. 643 00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:38,990 You sure you want to do this in front of your son? 644 00:28:39,060 --> 00:28:40,160 Hey, get away from me. 645 00:28:40,220 --> 00:28:41,790 Get your hands off me! Come on. 646 00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:43,700 Jimmy, go to your room now! 647 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,760 I don't believe this! 648 00:28:44,830 --> 00:28:47,370 No, I didn't expect you would. Give him Miranda. 649 00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:48,700 You have the right to remain silent, 650 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:50,180 which you should take us up on. 651 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:53,210 Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law... 652 00:28:53,740 --> 00:28:55,410 Judge Fraser in arraignments 653 00:28:55,970 --> 00:28:58,080 didn't think our case was worth bail. 654 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,920 His problem. 655 00:28:59,980 --> 00:29:02,510 Our problem is how to make a case against Telford. 656 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,130 Make sure the jury knows he dropped the ball. 657 00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:07,720 And we get a conviction for bad parenting. 658 00:29:08,180 --> 00:29:10,160 He gave his son a sword, 659 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,630 sent him out to practice neck chops. 660 00:29:13,020 --> 00:29:15,630 Ah, bad parenting in the first degree. 661 00:29:15,690 --> 00:29:17,970 His indifference created the risk. 662 00:29:18,130 --> 00:29:20,800 Only a matter of time before that kid attacked somebody. 663 00:29:23,270 --> 00:29:26,710 Okay, suppose we pull it off. 664 00:29:28,340 --> 00:29:29,480 Who's next, Adam? 665 00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:36,120 What did Potter Stewart say about pornography? 666 00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:38,520 "I can't define what it is, but I know it when I see it." 667 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:40,020 Right. 668 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,730 Telford could have stopped his son. 669 00:29:44,050 --> 00:29:46,430 The way I read the law, it makes him a murderer. 670 00:29:47,390 --> 00:29:49,030 Maybe you should try the case. 671 00:29:49,090 --> 00:29:50,230 (LAUGHS) 672 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,200 I have to do all the work around here? 673 00:29:54,530 --> 00:29:56,010 Do you think he's innocent? 674 00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:57,170 I don't. 675 00:29:57,230 --> 00:29:59,470 Well, I'm sure you'll do fine. 676 00:30:09,050 --> 00:30:11,050 JACK: The People will prove that Jon Telford buried 677 00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:14,560 a martial arts weapon called the kama 678 00:30:14,620 --> 00:30:16,530 into the neck of Chris Skinner. 679 00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:19,260 The evidence will show that this crime would not have happened 680 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,670 had it not been for the total indifference of Jon Telford's father. 681 00:30:24,330 --> 00:30:26,330 Had Robert Telford opened his eyes 682 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,840 to what was going on with his son in his own home, 683 00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:31,810 Chris Skinner would be with us today. 684 00:30:34,140 --> 00:30:36,310 I'll be frank with you, ladies and gentlemen. 685 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,780 We're entering uncharted waters here. 686 00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:42,820 Once you bring a child into this world, 687 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,920 there are obligations attached. 688 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,660 Parents have a commitment to love and care for their child 689 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,960 to nurture his growth, 690 00:30:50,020 --> 00:30:54,760 and they also have a commitment to us, to society, 691 00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:58,070 to make sure that their child obeys the law. 692 00:30:58,660 --> 00:31:02,440 You're going to hear evidence that Robert Telford dishonored both commitments. 693 00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:08,210 He nurtured his son's brutality 694 00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:10,520 and anti-social behavior. 695 00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:15,190 Warned that his son was aggressive, a bully, 696 00:31:15,550 --> 00:31:18,390 a boy obsessed with images of cruelty and violence, 697 00:31:18,450 --> 00:31:20,020 he shrugged it off. 698 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,890 He armed his son with instruments of death, 699 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,640 and then he let him loose on Chris Skinner. 700 00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:34,800 I don't have to prove to you that Mr. Telford 701 00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:37,740 was a direct cause of Chris's death. 702 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,970 If he could have foreseen that his son 703 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,710 would use his weapons to harm another person, 704 00:31:42,910 --> 00:31:46,980 and if he set that chain of events in motion through his inaction, 705 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,790 the law says he committed depraved indifference murder. 706 00:31:52,750 --> 00:31:54,560 And in that case, 707 00:31:55,220 --> 00:31:59,030 the sins of the son should be visited on the father. 708 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,940 Let's talk about what's really going on here. 709 00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:14,180 The People's case against Jon Telford 710 00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:17,380 is a handful of circumstantial evidence. 711 00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:23,050 Mr. McCoy wants to hold this pathetic bit of evidence together by one proposition. 712 00:32:24,050 --> 00:32:28,090 He's going to try to prove to you that Jon is a bad boy. 713 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:33,030 He's asking you to convict Jon not on the evidence, 714 00:32:33,290 --> 00:32:35,060 but on his character. 715 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,770 And he wants you to believe that Jon was so mean, so out of control 716 00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:43,070 that his father should be held legally responsible. 717 00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:47,210 The prosecution of Robert Telford is a ploy 718 00:32:47,270 --> 00:32:50,380 to admit bad character evidence against his son. 719 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,250 Mr. Telford never heard of Chris Skinner. 720 00:32:53,610 --> 00:32:55,150 He was miles away when this happened. 721 00:32:55,210 --> 00:32:57,590 He didn't have a thing to do with this murder. 722 00:32:59,180 --> 00:33:01,180 Follow the ball, ladies and gentlemen. 723 00:33:01,620 --> 00:33:04,390 They can't prove a case against Jon directly, 724 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,330 so they'll do it by innuendo. 725 00:33:06,420 --> 00:33:09,630 And for lack of an explanation for this terrible crime, 726 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,410 they'll blame the parent. 727 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:16,110 If you let them do this to Jon Telford, 728 00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:18,840 you'll be next. 729 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,740 Thank you. 730 00:33:25,610 --> 00:33:28,920 The tobacco residue we discovered in the Telford's stairwell 731 00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:31,460 was identical to the residue on the garbage bag 732 00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:33,260 where we found the victim's body. 733 00:33:33,550 --> 00:33:36,590 And when you made that discovery, Detective, what action did you take? 734 00:33:36,650 --> 00:33:38,100 We obtained a search warrant, 735 00:33:38,220 --> 00:33:41,830 and we recovered a kama in Jon Telford's room. 736 00:33:43,660 --> 00:33:44,930 People's three. 737 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,470 Was there any kind of forensic test conducted on this weapon? 738 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,000 Yes. 739 00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,140 It was consistent with the fatal wound in the victim's neck. 740 00:33:55,540 --> 00:33:57,350 CARMICHAEL: No further questions. 741 00:33:59,110 --> 00:34:01,050 Was any of the victim's blood 742 00:34:01,110 --> 00:34:04,390 found in the Telford's apartment or stairwell, Detective? 743 00:34:04,450 --> 00:34:05,550 BRISCOE: No. 744 00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:07,420 How about on the kama? 745 00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:09,050 No. 746 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,620 You have children, don't you, Detective? 747 00:34:10,890 --> 00:34:12,870 Objection. JUDGE: Where are you going, Mr. Granick? 748 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,270 The prosecution has raised the issue of parental responsibility. 749 00:34:16,390 --> 00:34:18,460 I'd like a little leeway to address their argument. 750 00:34:18,660 --> 00:34:20,230 Fine, Judge. But with this Detective? 751 00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:22,210 I'm going to give it to him Ms. Carmichael. 752 00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:24,680 You're the ones pushing the envelope. 753 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,070 Answer the question, Detective. 754 00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:31,010 I had two daughters. One of them was murdered. 755 00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:35,210 Because she turned state's evidence in a drug case? 756 00:34:36,380 --> 00:34:38,260 She was going to testify against a dealer. 757 00:34:39,020 --> 00:34:40,220 So she was selling drugs herself? 758 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,690 Objection. 759 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,990 Overruled. 760 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,090 Yes, she was selling drugs. 761 00:34:48,730 --> 00:34:51,760 And as her father, under Mr. McCoy's theory, 762 00:34:52,030 --> 00:34:55,010 shouldn't you be held criminally responsible for her drug dealing? 763 00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:01,940 Criminally responsible? 764 00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:04,310 No. 765 00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:08,450 But I didn't give her the pills and teach her how to sell them. 766 00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:12,620 No further questions. 767 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,160 CARMICHAEL: Beside the locker incident, 768 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,700 what other things did Jon do to you? 769 00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:25,400 LEO: Locked me in the bathroom. 770 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,940 What else, Leo? 771 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,210 He put a knife against my neck and tried to get me in his basement. 772 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,950 He called me names. Like what? 773 00:35:36,210 --> 00:35:37,580 Do I have to say? 774 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,480 It's okay. 775 00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:43,250 Faggot. 776 00:35:44,010 --> 00:35:45,390 Homo boy. 777 00:35:45,450 --> 00:35:47,220 CARMICHAEL: Did you ever ask him to stop? 778 00:35:47,350 --> 00:35:50,890 Yeah. He just laughed at me. 779 00:35:51,390 --> 00:35:53,890 I told him my father was going to call his dad. 780 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,160 He said, "Go ahead. Big deal." 781 00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:58,800 Thank you, Leo. 782 00:36:03,330 --> 00:36:05,810 Does your father let you play with video games at home? 783 00:36:05,870 --> 00:36:07,510 Yes. Like what, Leo? 784 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,250 Well, uh, I have Death Match and Cyber Mafia. 785 00:36:11,540 --> 00:36:13,610 GRANICK: Did he ever buy you a toy gun or a knife? 786 00:36:14,110 --> 00:36:15,520 A Swiss Army Knife. 787 00:36:16,050 --> 00:36:18,960 Hmm, did you ever do anything bad? 788 00:36:21,220 --> 00:36:23,220 I don't believe it. Not one thing? 789 00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:27,100 (LAUGHS) Well, I broke my sister's glass animal collection. 790 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,130 (LAUGHS) All right, you know the story of George Washington 791 00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:32,140 and the cherry tree, right? LEO: Yes. 792 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,470 When he did something wrong, 793 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,470 he took responsibility for it, right? 794 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,410 That's what the story's about. 795 00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:39,200 And when you broke your sister's things, 796 00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:41,280 you took responsibility, right? 797 00:36:41,370 --> 00:36:42,370 Right. 798 00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:44,310 You didn't say it was your father's fault, did you? 799 00:36:45,070 --> 00:36:46,080 No. 800 00:36:48,580 --> 00:36:51,120 It's a truth so simple, even a child can grasp it. 801 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,590 Thank you, Leo. 802 00:37:04,330 --> 00:37:06,570 I'm a delivery dispatcher for Bloomingdales. 803 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,440 My wife Sandra manages the produce department in a supermarket. 804 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:14,210 And what kind of hours do you and your wife work? 805 00:37:14,270 --> 00:37:15,870 I work a lot of overtime. 806 00:37:15,940 --> 00:37:18,820 Sandra works a regular shift but sometimes it's nights. 807 00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:21,510 Did you receive any complaints about Jon from school? 808 00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:24,350 Just a call from that teacher that time. 809 00:37:24,650 --> 00:37:27,250 Oh. Well, she testified that you hung up on her. 810 00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:30,230 Look, maybe I was a little thick. 811 00:37:30,890 --> 00:37:33,660 You know, she was talking about Internet this, Internet that. 812 00:37:33,820 --> 00:37:36,130 (LAUGHS) I don't know much about it. 813 00:37:36,190 --> 00:37:40,730 (LAUGHS) Well, do you know about the video games your son plays? 814 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,800 I know they're violent. 815 00:37:43,070 --> 00:37:46,240 When we were a kid, we used to play combat and blow up the Nazis. 816 00:37:46,770 --> 00:37:49,380 You know, the way I see it, kids are the same. 817 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,680 Just the technology's different. 818 00:37:51,970 --> 00:37:54,510 GRANICK: How did Jon get involved in martial arts? 819 00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:56,750 I took him to karate lessons when he was little. 820 00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:59,420 And is that why he had these weapons? 821 00:37:59,650 --> 00:38:01,990 Uh, no. He quit the lessons. 822 00:38:02,150 --> 00:38:03,460 But he was gettin' picked on at school 823 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,830 by some of the football players, 824 00:38:04,890 --> 00:38:07,700 so I just thought this might help him with his confidence. 825 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,160 GRANICK: Nothing further. 826 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,300 How did your son get this, Mr. Telford? 827 00:38:19,370 --> 00:38:22,210 Jon showed me how to order the karate gear on a computer. 828 00:38:23,010 --> 00:38:26,280 I gave him my credit card number to buy the stuff. 829 00:38:26,380 --> 00:38:28,720 This karate gear, as you call it 830 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,920 you can't buy it in New York state, can you? 831 00:38:32,010 --> 00:38:35,020 ROBERT: A brother of mine lives in Virginia. We had it shipped down there. 832 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,690 So you enabled your son to buy illegal weapons. 833 00:38:38,890 --> 00:38:40,270 Boys like that stuff. 834 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,790 Didn't you ever have a slingshot when you were a kid? 835 00:38:42,860 --> 00:38:44,390 Made out of a tree branch. 836 00:38:45,090 --> 00:38:48,470 It wasn't contraband from an 'adults only' website. 837 00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:50,240 It taught him how to defend himself. 838 00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:53,250 Without any kind of training or supervision? 839 00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:54,980 He was practicing on his own. 840 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,880 Only he was practicing to be a bully, wasn't he, Mr. Telford? 841 00:38:58,940 --> 00:39:01,050 When he was 13, some punk held 842 00:39:01,110 --> 00:39:05,020 a knife to his throat and took his money. He came home crying. 843 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,690 So this is your idea of parenting? 844 00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:12,220 To send him out with this, and this, and this? 845 00:39:12,660 --> 00:39:15,640 Listen, it's a different world than when you and I grew up. 846 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,070 A kid throws a punch now another kid pulls out a gun. 847 00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:20,770 JACK: How about teaching him not to fight? 848 00:39:20,830 --> 00:39:23,070 ROBERT: What, so they could rob his money again? 849 00:39:23,330 --> 00:39:25,940 I wanted him to stand up for himself. 850 00:39:26,270 --> 00:39:27,270 To be a man. 851 00:39:28,340 --> 00:39:30,110 They laugh at you when you say that now. 852 00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:31,980 But yeah. What's wrong with that? 853 00:39:32,270 --> 00:39:36,420 Was he being a man when he tortured Leo Clayton in school? 854 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,690 ROBERT: Jon wouldn't do that. 855 00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:40,190 When he held a knife against his throat? 856 00:39:40,780 --> 00:39:41,990 I don't know the story on that. 857 00:39:42,050 --> 00:39:43,330 JACK: You knew he was carrying a knife. 858 00:39:43,420 --> 00:39:45,460 ROBERT: I knew he had one, but he knew not to use it. 859 00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:47,500 Well, he did use it, Mr. Telford. 860 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,560 Isn't that what you taught him? 861 00:39:48,990 --> 00:39:50,830 No. To relieve his feelings 862 00:39:50,890 --> 00:39:52,460 of helplessness with aggression? 863 00:39:52,530 --> 00:39:53,840 That's just more PC crap. 864 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,000 Or to retreat into his fantasy world on his computer. 865 00:39:57,070 --> 00:39:59,050 He's not the only kid playing these things. 866 00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:02,010 You stood there and watched while your son 867 00:40:02,070 --> 00:40:04,350 turned into a killer didn't you, Mr. Telford? 868 00:40:05,010 --> 00:40:06,650 That's ridiculous. 869 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,450 I wanted my kid to protect himself. 870 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,560 You were proud when he dished it out at school, weren't you? 871 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,390 I wasn't proud. 872 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,730 You know what those football players called him? 873 00:40:18,090 --> 00:40:19,260 Fluff boy and... 874 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,320 Is that what this is about, Mr. Telford? You were ashamed? 875 00:40:21,390 --> 00:40:23,930 Where do you get off tryin' to tell me how to raise my kid, huh? 876 00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:25,230 You think it's easy? 877 00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:28,970 I love my boys! I did the best that I could! 878 00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:30,240 You did not! 879 00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:32,040 JUDGE: Sit down, Mrs. Telford. 880 00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:34,310 It's not true! He ruined him! 881 00:40:34,370 --> 00:40:36,210 JUDGE: Mrs. Telford. (JUDGE POUNDS GAVEL) 882 00:40:36,270 --> 00:40:37,650 I want a mistrial, Judge. 883 00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:40,850 Let's step outside. 884 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,890 I'll instruct the jury to ignore the outburst. 885 00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:50,950 (LAUGHS) Oh, gimme a break, Judge. 886 00:40:51,020 --> 00:40:53,300 How can my clients get a fair trial after that? 887 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,730 The defendant brought it on himself. 888 00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:56,390 The People oppose a mistrial. 889 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,910 And you're not getting one, Mr. Granick. 890 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,340 I'm not wasting two weeks' work. 891 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,810 Judge... That means you have a problem. 892 00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:05,950 We'll recess till tomorrow. 893 00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:16,920 JACK: Jon admits to murder, I'll consider man one. 894 00:41:16,980 --> 00:41:18,690 And my husband gets off? 895 00:41:18,810 --> 00:41:20,890 Man two. Reckless homicide. 896 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,360 I didn't kill the kid. 897 00:41:22,420 --> 00:41:25,560 You got Jon. You really need a pound of flesh from Mr. Telford? 898 00:41:25,620 --> 00:41:27,000 I'm not taking any deal. 899 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,390 JACK: We'll see you tomorrow. 900 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,060 SANDRA: What if I give you evidence? 901 00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:31,670 Will you make a deal with Jon? 902 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,300 What are you doing? 903 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,140 What I should have done all along. 904 00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:39,340 What kind of evidence, Mrs. Telford? 905 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:42,580 About the blanket. 906 00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:43,980 Shut up, Sandra. 907 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,210 Please, Mrs. Telford. 908 00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:47,310 And I'll testify against my husband. 909 00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:49,280 About what? 910 00:41:49,350 --> 00:41:51,660 About what you've done to us all these years. 911 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,960 (CRYING) The weapons, the fighting. 912 00:41:56,850 --> 00:41:58,960 I've watched it long enough. 913 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,760 You want me to go to jail? 914 00:42:02,830 --> 00:42:05,030 I see what you did to Jon. 915 00:42:06,460 --> 00:42:08,570 You're not going to do it to Jimmy. 916 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,270 Tell Mr. McCoy what happened, Jon. 917 00:42:16,810 --> 00:42:17,940 No, Mom. 918 00:42:18,110 --> 00:42:19,810 That's right, Son. Don't say a word. 919 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,290 Tell him or I'll tell him about our blanket. 920 00:42:29,550 --> 00:42:31,190 Damn you, Sandra. 921 00:42:34,020 --> 00:42:35,500 It's over, Jon. 922 00:42:39,460 --> 00:42:40,630 Please. 923 00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:43,670 Say what you did. 924 00:42:56,650 --> 00:42:58,520 I made Chris come into our apartment. 925 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,230 I was just going to take his candy money, I swear. 926 00:43:07,290 --> 00:43:11,400 But he punched me in the stomach hard, and... 927 00:43:13,830 --> 00:43:16,040 The kama was on the wall, and... 928 00:43:18,670 --> 00:43:21,150 I grabbed it, and I swung it at him. (CRYING) 929 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,220 Man one, 10-to-20. 930 00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:38,260 How can you do this to me? 931 00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:50,110 I didn't kill that kid. 932 00:43:52,330 --> 00:43:53,810 Man two, two-to-six. 933 00:43:54,940 --> 00:43:57,320 Or I put your wife on the stand. 934 00:43:59,340 --> 00:44:01,620 Would you rather risk a murder conviction? 935 00:44:01,940 --> 00:44:03,010 Take it, Dad. 936 00:44:04,750 --> 00:44:07,280 Oh, now you're tellin' me what to do? 937 00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:09,600 I'll do what I said, Robert. 938 00:44:11,420 --> 00:44:13,090 It's a fair offer. 939 00:44:14,890 --> 00:44:16,340 (SIGHS) 940 00:44:18,130 --> 00:44:20,270 Now or never, Mr. Telford. 941 00:44:29,870 --> 00:44:31,180 Fine. 942 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,330 Sandra Telford had her husband served with divorce papers at Rikers. 943 00:44:45,820 --> 00:44:47,960 Sacrificed her marriage to save her sons. 944 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,630 She spoke up sooner, she might have saved Chris Skinner. 945 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,900 Want to put her in jail, too? 946 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,640 Don't tempt me.